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By: Shawn Fleetwood, originally published December 3, 2025, The Federalist<\/a><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2018Now I don\u2019t know how to read that other than it\u2019s pretty self-executing to me, counsel,\u2019 said Justice Neil Gorsuch.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

The U.S. Supreme Court held oral arguments<\/a> in a key case on Tuesday that involves New Jersey\u2019s targeting of a state-based pro-life pregnancy center.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Known as First Choice Women\u2019s Resource Centers, Inc. v. Platkin<\/em>, the case came to fruition several years ago after New Jersey Attorney General Matthew Platkin, a Democrat, filed a subpoena against First Choice Women\u2019s Resource Centers seeking to obtain \u201cyears\u2019 worth<\/a>\u201d of data (internal communications and donor information) from the organization. As summarized<\/a> by Oyez, the state\u2019s seemingly partisan inquiry stemmed from investigators\u2019 concerns that First Choice was allegedly misleading its donors and clients \u201cabout its services, staff qualifications, and medical practices.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

While proceedings related to the subpoena remained ongoing in state court, First Choice filed a lawsuit challenging<\/a> its legality in federal court. A district court and the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals dismissed the suit as \u201cunripe,\u201d arguing that the matter can\u2019t be examined in federal court due to ongoing state proceedings and the fact that the subpoena had yet to be enforced.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

With no other options, First Choice petitioned<\/a> SCOTUS to take up the case and address the question of, \u201cWhere the subject of a state investigatory demand has established a reasonably objective chill of its First Amendment rights, is a federal court in a first-filed action deprived of jurisdiction because those rights must be adjudicated in state court?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

During Tuesday\u2019s oral arguments<\/a>, the justices probed parties on the facts of the case and whether First Choice has standing to sue in federal court while state proceedings remain ongoing. Here are some of the biggest moments from the hearing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thomas Exposes New Jersey\u2019s Absurd Subpoena Standards<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

During an exchange about the subpoena against First Choice. Associate Justice Clarence Thomas homed in on the weight a subpoena carries in comparison to a request from an administrative agency. He specifically asked Platkin\u2019s chief counsel, Sundeep Iyer, to differentiate between a subpoena like the one issued by the New Jersey AG\u2019s office and a request.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Iyer argued that \u201cthis subpoena is a predicate under state law for the state executive branch to be able to go to a court to seek a court order requiring production,\u201d and that they \u201ccouldn\u2019t do that if we had just sent a letter request.\u201d More notably, however, he attempted to claim that \u201cin other critical respects, there\u2019s really not a difference in terms of the legal obligations that are actually imposed upon a recipient of a subpoena.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The response didn\u2019t seem to satisfy Thomas, who asked Iyer once again to address his original question. In his response, Iyer claimed that \u201cthere is not a difference in terms of the change in legal obligations for Petitioner.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

To underscore Iyer\u2019s weak argument, Thomas proceeded to read directly from New Jersey law regarding the issuance of subpoenas, which appears to contradict the claim put forward by Platkin\u2019s chief counsel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cSo, if I were to request these documents from an organization as an administrative agency, would I write this sentence: Failure to comply with this request \u2014 and I\u2019m substituting \u2026 \u2018request\u2019 for \u2018subpoena\u2019 \u2014 failure to comply with this request may render you liable for contempt of court?\u201d Thomas asked. \u201cHow would I write that \u2026?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Iyer admitted that the subpoena \u201cdoes say exactly what [Thomas] said, and it says that an individual who receives the subpoena is commanded to produce.\u201d In an apparent effort to weasel out of the tough questioning, he then pointed to an appendix on the subpoena that \u201csays that one entirely appropriate way for a party to respond is to object to some or even all of the requests contained in the subpoena.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gorsuch Grills New Jersey on \u2018Non-Self-Executing\u2019 Subpoenas<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Associate Justice Neil Gorsuch took Iyer to task on New Jersey\u2019s position that the subpoena against First Choice is non-self-executing (i.e. that it\u2019s not automatically enforceable). He specifically pointed to New Jersey law, which he seemingly surmised contradicts the state\u2019s argument.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201c[J]ust looking at the statute, it says the AG\u2019s subpoenas have the force of law, and if a person fails to obey the subpoena, the AG may apply to the superior court and obtain an order adjudging such person in contempt of court,\u201d Gorsuch said. \u201cNow I don\u2019t know how to read that other than it\u2019s pretty self-executing to me, counsel. Now \u2026 maybe that\u2019s anomalous. Maybe that\u2019s wrong. Maybe the New Jersey Supreme Court read it differently. But that\u2019s not the materials I have before me, so help me out.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

As part of his reasoning, Iyer cited a past New Jersey Supreme Court decision (Silverman v. Berkson<\/a><\/em>) dealing with state agencies\u2019 subpoena power, which prompted Gorsuch to interject and ask whether he believes that decision answers his original question.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cI do think Silverman<\/em> speaks very strongly to that question,\u201d Iyer said, to which Gorsuch replied, \u201cSpeaks strongly to the question. That\u2019s a little bit different, counsel.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Barrett Catches New Jersey Flat-Footed<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

When questioning Iyer, Associate Justice Amy Coney Barrett probed the New Jersey AG official about his opening statement, in which he, as summarized by the justice, argued that if the Supreme Court adopted plaintiffs\u2019 \u201cpre-enforcement<\/a> theory<\/a>,\u201d then the court \u201cwould be throwing the door open wide and that there would be all manner of challenges in federal court to subpoenas issued in New Jersey.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In an attempt to further ascertain the logic behind the state\u2019s reasoning, Barrett asked Iyer to provide her with \u201csome examples of this Pandora\u2019s box.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Seemingly caught off guard, Iyer admitted that \u201cIt\u2019s a difficult question to answer.\u201d He then attempted to claim that it\u2019s hard to provide such an answer, \u201cin part, because this would represent a pretty dramatic sea change in historical practice.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cPetitioner and the United States haven\u2019t identified a single case that adopts this credible threat of enforcement theory for subpoenas in particular,\u201d Iyer said. \u201cSo, this would be a pretty extraordinary change. And I think the risk would be that federal courts would potentially be inundated by these subpoena cases.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cIn what kinds of cases? And are we only talking about First Amendment cases? Are we talking about other constitutional challenges?\u201d Barrett asked.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Iyer replied that the argument<\/a> put forward by the United States \u2014 which sided with First Choice in the case \u2014 would apply to First Amendment challenges, as well as \u201cFourth Amendment challenges \u2026 due process challenges, [and] extraterritoriality challenges.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Roberts and Gorsuch Blast New Jersey\u2019s Dismissal of Potential First Amendment Violations<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Iyer also faced extensive grilling from Chief Justice John Roberts, who probed the defendant on whether he believes First Choice has credible concerns that their First Amendment rights are being chilled by the state\u2019s subpoena. He specifically asked, \u201cDo you think there is a credible chilling effect from the state seeking full names, phone numbers, addresses, present or last known place of employment, of every one of their donors who gave through any means other than the one specific website?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In disagreeing with First Choice\u2019s position, Iyer claimed that \u201cif you look at [the group\u2019s] complaint allegations, all of the harms they identified are tethered to a future downstream state court order requiring disclosure, but they\u2019re not tethered to the subpoena itself.\u201d In other words, he argued, plaintiffs\u2019 \u201callegations are focused on the harms from the disclosure of documents that identify First Choice\u2019s donors, but all of those harms, again, are contingent on a future downstream state court [order].\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That answer didn\u2019t appear to sit well with the chief justice, who further probed Iyer on whether he believes that the state\u2019s actions \u201cmight have an effect on future potential donors to the organization to know that their name, phone number, address, etc. could be disclosed as a result of the subpoena.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cIt certainly has not in this case,\u201d Iyer replied, to which Roberts asked, \u201cHow do you know that?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

After attempting to answer the chief justice\u2019s inquiry, Roberts interjected and again questioned how the state would go about getting that evidence to bolster such a claim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cWell, how do you get that evidence? Somebody comes in and say[s], \u2018I\u2019m chilled, I don\u2019t want to reveal my name, address, phone number, etc., and here is my affidavit.\u2019 That\u2019s not going to work, is it?\u201d Roberts asked.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cI absolutely think that that is something they could have pled here, but they did not plead it,\u201d said Iyer, who subsequently downplayed comments from a group of anonymous First Choice donors who said they \u201cwould have been less likely to donate to First Choice if [they] had known information about the donation might be disclosed.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Iyer\u2019s claim that \u201cthat\u2019s a backwards-looking statement of harm\u201d and is \u201cnot about prospective chill\u201d prompted a rebuke from Gorsuch, who admonished the New Jersey official for \u201cpick[ing] over the tense of a verb that they chose.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thomas Nukes New Jersey\u2019s Lawfare with One Question<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

In his questioning of Iyer, Thomas focused in on Platkin\u2019s rationale for subpoenaing private information from First Choice in the first place. He specifically asked Iyer whether the state AG\u2019s office received \u201cany complaints that formed the basis of [his] concern about the fundraising activities [by First Choice].\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

After initially attempting to avoid addressing the question, a follow-up question from Thomas resulted in Iyer disclosing that Platkin\u2019s office hasn\u2019t \u201chad complaints about this specific [center],\u201d claiming he \u201cthinks\u201d this was made \u201cclear from the outset.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Read more about the full exchange here<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Justice Thomas gets New Jersey to admit that it hasn\u2019t received any public complaints to justify its subpoena against a state-based pro-life center. @FDRLST<\/a> pic.twitter.com\/7AiTtJZhc4<\/a><\/p>— Shawn Fleetwood (@ShawnFleetwood) December 2, 2025<\/a><\/blockquote>